Using Free File Fillable Forms from IRS dot gov

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By LillyGrillzit

Copyright all Rights Reserved LillyGrillzit February 14, 2011

Some history

The thing about being a tax expert who keeps track of tax law changes over four decades, (because she is a nerd) there are some true facts that cannot be re-written. Tax law has been what it is because of

  1. The Congresses who have been involved in Tax Law changes each fiscal year
  2. The Citizen's or businesses who had the most clout had their wills heard for tax law changes
  3. The President has an agenda, and a budget. The standing President has a lot of effect on tax law changes.

The IRS are really just the handlers. The IRS is the accounting branch. To simplify matters (HA!), there is an army of CPA's, Enrolled Agents, Attorneys, Accountants, Clerks, and gofer's that stand at the ready to check the math of every taxpayer who submits a tax return.

It is the US Treasury who holds and releases , liens and seizes funds . The IRS works with theDepartment of Justice , who do the enforcement, using Marshall's or agents for hands on legal actions.

FFFF

Free File Fillable Forms this is a lot of F's, so I call it 4-F to stay as sane as possible.

This article pertains to the Free File Fillable Forms available on the IRS (Internal Revenue Service) website. The web address is www.irs.gov/Individual > e-file > Free File/Fillable Forms. [click = >]

This is a free way to File electronically in 2011 for the 2010 tax year. The 4-F FFFF, is simply the paper forms, tax return that the taxpayer used to do by hand, on paper.

Many of us old school taxpayers, insist on preparing our taxes manually. Spending the 45 minutes to 113 hours, doing the return. It is stressful, but this program makes it easier, because each time you need "Information about this form", FFFF directs the taxpayer to IRS web pages for answers.

I am a tax expert, and have been doing taxes since 1974. I worked when I was a young person, and did not intend to lose my $30.00 of withholdings, by having to pay an accountant or CPA to do my taxes. As a youngster, I ordered tax forms, and instruction booklets, by letter, from the IRS. I dove in and read. Do not ask me why I could understand tax law as an adolescent. To this day, I still keep up with tax law changes.

I relate to our Nation's recent History in tax law, and tax changes that took place with each Congress and President since the mid 1970s.

Federal Tax Filing Only - Does not support State Taxes

For those who prepare their tax return each year by hand, this means they are also doing their State Tax Return by hand. Most of the states have fillable PDF forms that can be filled out the same way. Most do not offer e-filing as a separate product.

The FFFF offer printing of your Federal return, which is highly recommended. This will assist you in preparation of your State Taxes, by providing information needed to complete most State returns. 

www.irs.gov/FFFF

A snapshot of the FFFF Free File Fillable Forms!
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A snapshot of the FFFF Free File Fillable Forms!
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Free File Fillable Form / FFFF (A)

  • If you are filing a 1040EZ
  • If you are doing a 1040A with W-2 Income

This is Easy Cheesy! Optimum for Parents who do a 1040 Tax Return, and have kids who have income, that must file too. My past experience has been that although it was cheaper at the firm I worked at, it was expensive to do one of these kids returns. When the parents are paying a good $200.00+ for tax prep fees, add $35.00 - $50.00 for each child, it adds up.
Mom! Dad! Junior! Yoo Hoo, This is for you.


Junior, if you are a dependent, when you are completing your tax return, MAKE SURE, you check the box stating you are a Dependent of someone else, and You cannot claim yourself, or EIC.



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AZ taxpayers are owed refunds, that need to be claimed!

The IRS has over 1.1 Billion $$ for those who did not file in 2007. Perhaps many became homeless, and did not realize their eligibility for Earned Income Credit, and other credits and deductions they are eligible for.

I have not tried it, because legally I have no cause to request a 2007 Tax Return 1040 from Free File Fillable Forms. I read somewhere that in 2010, FFFF updated the program allowing a prospective taxpayer to go back as many years as they desired, even 1040X filers (those who do an amended return.

If you can file a return in 2012 on FFFF, a taxpayer could take a stab at it, again, be ready to pay a tax pro, have one in mind, and remember he or she will be booked solid the last 2 weeks of tax season, so also have enough of your return computed, and send a token payment in with an extension, unless you are getting a refund. If you.

For those who have not filed in 2007, time is running out to claim your eligible refund. File your return before April 15th, 2011. Although the date has been extended for 2012 filers, I would not take the risk of waiting that late.

Good Luck!

The National Women's Law Center, and the IRS are asking all community activists to spread the word!

Attention! The IRS & the Women's Center want all taxpayers to check and see if they are eligible for Earned Income Credit.

Many families, and singles who struggle with low wages, are unaware they may be eligible for some Earned Income Credit. There are a lot of sour voices against Earned Income Credit. These are usually the same voices who hire college graduates for $9.25 per hour, or pay management in benefits. Leaving many salaried people making slightly over minimum wage. So that extra income is needed.

Do not look a gift horse in the mouth. Stimulate the economy. Go out to eat at your local restaurant, take a low cost vacation. Take a tour, Spend that extra money.

You need the break and it is healthy for local business. These are merely suggestions, but think about how you feel about how your tax dollars are spent. ?$?

If you had a say as to $300.00 per year were spent, wouldn't you feel as though your tax spending was directed in a way you feel is beneficial to you as a whole? So, here is your chance. Take the extra money, and do what you think your government should do. If it fill your grocery cupboard, plant a garden, buy a solar panel, a greenhouse. Do it.

One does not have to have a child to qualify(link to IRS)

Qualifying child Maximum credit Two or more children $4,140 One child $2,506 No children $376

To be eligible for a full or partial credit, a taxpayer must have an adjusted gross income of less than:

  • $33,178 ($34,178 married filing jointly) and two or more children (2+)
  • $29,202($30,202 MFJ) and one child (1)
  • $11,060 ($12,060 MFJ) with no children.


If you are using Free File Fillable Forms, through the IRS website, you must read all instructions, work the worksheets (which are simplified by the "do the math" button). You have to put your real and correctly calculated numbers in, but the FFFF will calculate those pesky percentages and other fractions of the financial balancing act.

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Free File Fillable Form / FFFF B).

WARNING!! This is not for the weak of heart. The FFFF or 4-F from the IRS is not a Software program that assists Taxpayers in preparing the tax return.


This is for those who normally prepare a Tax Return by hand, and have successfully done so - OR - you are a tax professional, CPA, Enrolled Agent, Bookkeeper, or understand the Tax Code, and/or can follow instructions like; ...if you are single, but made over $100,000.00, that was not a foreign trade, but beneficial to the American Recovery & Revitalization Act ([for dramatic purposes only, this is not an actual snippit of instruction from the IRS instructions)]

If your only tax experience has been conversations with the TaxPrep girls camped at your local super center, or a Home Edition of TurboTax, this is probably not an IRS product you want to use. This is not a put down. Go ahead, knock yourself out. If you are practicing sobriety call your sponsor first. This is merely tax expert attempting to save you from going mad.

For me, to spend an hour preparing my own tax return, with FFFF to complete my tax return is a very good deal. (This is the second year I have used Free File Fillable Forms, because I am writing about it here and on my Tax Blog. It is my intention to help taxpayers with a Free alternative to costly tax software, and preparation fees.)

I have about 3.5 hours logged in. My taxes are not filed yet. ( I will attempt to keep an update going on FFFF) They are filed as of 02/20/11. 


Those who have done your taxes by hand, on paper...

This way of filing is much more convenient for several reasons:

  • "Do the Math" on the (%)percentage calculations 
  • "Do the Math" on the numbers you have plugged in to the 1040EZ, 1040A, or 1040
  • If you need further "Instructions for this form", it takes the taxpayer to the IRS website, and the Publication 17. (The yearly publication with general tax code law, rules and instructions for a standard, or small business, LLC tax return)
  • Instead of having to find the Federal, State, Taxpayer copy of your Income forms, such as the W-2, you will simply re-create these forms in exact, at the Electronic Filing portion of your return. a). The Federal ID on a W-2 is not always the same as the State, b). Recreate your forms exactly. If the address is different, if they spelled your name wrong, if they added the middle initial, if they did not, do it just like them. c). In some cases it is impossible to fit an employer's entire name, get as close as you can.
  • If your Social Security number or Tax ID number is reported on your forms incorrectly, you must request a corrected W-2 (or whatever form income or paid like 1098's), because it will be an error, and could be rejected.
  • You are able to request as many of the extraneous forms needed to complete your return. With this program, you can Add or Remove as many forms as you like.
  • If you get to the point where you realized you need to leave your 1040A, and "Start Over" with a 1040, none of that information will be transferred. You will be starting over from scratch. At least it is not killing a bunch of trees. Starting with a 1040 will be the way to assure you do a complete return. 

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Only one educational credit/deduction allowed!

If you were a Full Time college student in 2011, you are possibly eligible for several deductions, or credits on you 2010 US Tax return. The big one for certain students is the American Opportunity Act Credit.

This is an actual dollar-back credit, and not merely a deduction. Make sure to fill out the 8863 to see what part of your billed expenses for Full-time college attendance in 2011 may make you eligible for the Credit.

Free File Fillable Forms Rocks

My total experience with Free File Fillable Forms has been just like doing a paper return, with some lovely perks. I did e-file successfully. Since I started my return with FFFF around February 11, 2011, until last night there have been many forms added to Free File Fillable Forms.

Many States offers a Fillable PDF form where a taxpayer may fill out their State Tax, then print it off and mail it.

The State of Arkansas does not provide for stand-alone, e-filing for electronic forms.

List of things that must be done to insure your tax filing to go smoother

Must Have
Suggestions
Remember/Save
All Income Forms W-2's, 1099s, 1098s, WG2,5754
Get mileage for each medical provider, pharmacy, clinic, etc
User Name
All Out-Go Forms 1098s, Receipts, Donations
Request print out on medical expenses paid out of pocket, unreimbursed
Password
Calculator/Adding machine
Re calculate all numbers you come up with. Do it at least 2 X to make sure you balance
5 Digit Pin (for e-filers)
Last years AGI or 5 digit pin
Have a copy of prior years taxes
Copies of everything you do. Make a back-up copy.
All receipts for all deductions.
Keep a log of incoming and outgoing income through the year. Monthly is a good way to do this
Any new pin numbers.
What you need when preparing your own taxes with FFFF. Once you have entered your numbers, hit "Do the Math", and it will be calculated for you.

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Always have a Tax Expert near-by in case of emergencies

Taxes are like plumbing. It looks simple enough. A bit of common sense, well-read directions, the right tools, and almost anyone could do a simple plumbing job. 

Sometimes when you get started on a plumbing project, and you aren't a professional plumber, there may be things that are missed, signs, that trouble is ahead. 

Depending on the complexity of your taxes, like plumbing, you may have gone in with pencil flying, and made grave errors, then you call the tax expert. Guess what. The plumber is going to charge you to get it right. 

Doesn't seem fair does it. Work with a net, and or spotters. There is great help to be found, on the IRS website, at www.IRS.gov. The search boxes, are finely tuned for tax law, and tax language. 

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Comments

BobbiRant profile image

BobbiRant Level 4 Commenter 15 months ago

This is a great hub especially for many who did not know about this. You have created many useful hubs recently, very, very nice.

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LillyGrillzit Hub Author 15 months ago

Ms Bobbi, Thank You! I worked hard on this, and I have to edit a few times. Glad to be of service. From my heart, thanks.

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always exploring Level 8 Commenter 15 months ago

Taxes, Yuck! I guess there is still two things we have to do and pay taxes is one of them LOL Great info. A lot of work went into this. Thank's

Cheers

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LillyGrillzit Hub Author 15 months ago

always exploring, I totally understand! That deer caught in the headlights feeling. A good tax pro, should put their customers/taxpayers at ease. In my opinion. :0)

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vocalcoach Level 7 Commenter 15 months ago

Lilly, thank you so much for this very helpful hub! It has brought me so much information. You really worked hard on this piece...and I want you to know how grateful I am. I think of you often and wish you a peaceful heart.

Hugs for you, Lilly. Up and awesome!

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LillyGrillzit Hub Author 15 months ago

Vocalcoach, I am honored by your compliments. I am glad to be helpful, and am extremely thankful for your well wishes! Vitally thankful. :0)

HarryGoff 15 months ago

I don't get why it is necessary to fill out a 1098 T E-form for the electronic FFFF. The procedure for a standard mail, paper filing doesn't require you to do so why should the E-file require it. Furthermore, I cannot find any instructions for filing a paper form that asks the taxpayer to supply the 1098-T information to the IRS. It is required by the IRS for the educational institution to furnish 1098-T's for the IRS and the qualified student. Yes, you do have to fill out a W-2 e-form when E-filing because this replaces the stapling of your W-2 copy that is attached to a paper-sent filing. Therefore, an E-form for a W-2 drops down when using electronic FFFF to replace this stapling just like the E-pin replaces a signature(for paper filing ) with an E-file. I am not a tax expert, but I don't believe the instructions for the 8863 form for paper or E-file requires the taxpayer to send a copy of their 1098 T with the filed 8863 form. Please acknowledge and site where I am misinformed if so. Thanks.

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LillyGrillzit Hub Author 15 months ago

I have been losing sleep over this. I went to Jackson Hewitt's site this morning, and within their program, is the necessity to include the Federal ID of the University or School attended. Also, whether or not the taxpayer has a relationship with the school attended, and several other things that are addressed no where in the FFFF. I agree that this is not a form that is usually included in filing a regular 1040, 1040A to the IRS, but this is not simply a deduction we are talking about, this is an actual Credit. There are many reasons a taxpayer would/ would not be eligible for this. I also understand that "this information is being supplied to the IRS". So is 1098, and other 'payer/payee' information. Usually there is a request for the Federal ID of the payer/payee. I am in conversation with the IRS on this. Perhaps I am asking the IRS to be a bit more proactive in asking for information provided. Knowing how bogged down the system is, it is surprising that there is nothing more than a dollar amount required.

Harry, you are not misinformed, and experts make errors too. I am still standing by my original opinion that this is an error in the process of crediting actual credits back which is a newer Act. Thank you for your well informed comment. I went ahead and e-filed, an hour ago, so we will see what happens. When I hear back from the IRS, I will post their series of responses. Thank you Harry Goff!

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katiem2 15 months ago

Oh yes it is that time again, I need to bite the bullet and do my tax returns. I like filing on line, I've done it for several years now, it's easy. I need to get off my duff and do it again, I appreciate your helpful tips on the new and advanced method of uning free file fillable forms from the IRS dot gov, free is good! :) Katie

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LillyGrillzit Hub Author 15 months ago

Ms Katie! I will send you glad tidings during your trial with taxes. You may be pleasantly surprised on some changes in Medicare and SS withholding amounts. :0) Making Work Pay Credit, and several other breaks for the self-employed. Please do not hesitate to e-mail me if I can help during tax time. Gratis! I am not doing taxes, just aiding.

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katiem2 14 months ago

I keep getting tax questions from my facebook followers and so I'm back here to share your knowledge. Thanks for the resources on file fillable forms from IRS dot gov. :) Katie

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LillyGrillzit Hub Author 14 months ago

Dear Ms Katie, thank you for the props! I hope it has been a smoother ride this time. We got some good credits and cuts in taxation. You are smiling, so that is Good.

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Neverletitgo 14 months ago

Very nice article and useful. I missed this year but I'll keep an eye on 4-f for the next year. Thanks for sharing.

Abdi.

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